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Do Spin wing vanes (original or the new Elite version) hold any advantage over the normal flexible fletchings when used on Easton ACC with a recurve bow? At what angle should the be fixed?

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http://www.texasarchery.org/Documents/Mylar/mylarvanes.htm Depends on what your definition of "flexible fletchings" is – do you mean kurly vanes, arizona, or fastflight? > Do Spin wing vanes (original or the new Elite version) hold any advantage > over the normal flexible fletchings when used on Easton ACC with a recurve > bow? > At what angle should the be fixed?

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I mean the standard/conventional type. Malcolm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://www.texasarchery.org/Documents/Mylar/mylarvanes.htm > Depends on what your definition of "flexible fletchings" is – do you mean > kurly vanes, arizona, or fastflight? > Do Spin wing vanes (original or the new Elite version) hold any advantage > over the normal flexible fletchings when used on Easton ACC with a recurve > bow? > At what angle should the be fixed? > — > Outgoing messages scanned for viruses by Nortons AV 2002

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oh, <G>, that’s a BIG help.  <ROFL> 1. MYLAR or FEATHER, you British Git? <G> (I don’t mean to be particularly abusive, it’s just too funny not to!!!! and they say it  (git) in NottingHill so it must not be too much of an abuse<G>) Honestly – if you are talking feather vanes – they are VERY durable, but will lay down when raining/wet  to provide NO use.  They have higher drag than Mylar are used by ALL of the TOP archers shooting Olympic Style archery.  They are less durable if the arrow misses the buttress, but provide LESS drag than fleathers for the longer distances…I think. > I mean the standard/conventional type.-

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Somebody from Britain has apprised me as to the derivation of "git" and I was not trying to be THAT abusive.  My apologies, Malcom.    But you still weren’t a heckuvalotta hep.  🙂 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > oh, <G>, that’s a BIG help.  <ROFL> > 1. MYLAR or FEATHER, you British Git? <G> (I don’t mean to be particularly > abusive, it’s just too funny not to!!!! and they say it  (git) in NottingHill > so it must not be too much of an abuse<G>) > Honestly – if you are talking feather vanes – they are VERY durable, but will > lay down when raining/wet  to provide NO use.  They have higher drag than > Mylar are used by ALL of the TOP archers shooting Olympic Style archery.  They > are less durable if the arrow misses the buttress, but provide LESS drag than > fleathers for the longer distances…I think. > I mean the standard/conventional type.- > TexARC > publicize the sport of Archery! > http://www.texasarchery.org > Outgoing messages scanned for viruses by Nortons AV 2002

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>Mylar are used by ALL of the TOP archers shooting Olympic Style archery.

And most of the compound archers I know, also changed to Kurlys. — Sven

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>Somebody from Britain has apprised me as to the derivation of "git" and I was not >trying to be THAT abusive.

OK, please tell me, I have a lot to learn also. — Sven

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Git – A worthless person, according to most dictionaries. However, if you speak Arabic, it means a pregnant camel. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Somebody from Britain has apprised me as to the derivation of "git" and I was not >trying to be THAT abusive. > OK, please tell me, I have a lot to learn also. > — > Sven

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also, apparently, a derivative of illiGITimate<G>…. a rather sly way of saying essentially, You bastard, you<G>….But honestly, in the movie Nottinghill one guy describes his daft welsh roomate as the git he shall soon strangle, or something like that.   very funny at the time… The guy is in the process at the time of filling a diving mask on his face with cigarette smoke…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Git – A worthless person, according to most dictionaries. However, if > you speak Arabic, it means a pregnant camel. > Tom > >Somebody from Britain has apprised me as to the derivation of "git" and I was not > >trying to be THAT abusive. > OK, please tell me, I have a lot to learn also. > — > Sven

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>However, if >you speak Arabic, it means a pregnant camel.

ROTFL )) — Sven

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> Do Spin wing vanes (original or the new Elite version) hold any advantage > over the normal flexible fletchings when used on Easton ACC with a recurve > bow? > At what angle should the be fixed?

I *switched* to Spin Wings more as a fashion statement than anything else. However…… I’m really glad I did. I feel the biggest advantage is the ease of fletching (or re-fletching) with them.  It can be done by hand very easily, the adhesive tape that sticks them to the shaft is excellent, no fletching jig is required as there is no need to fix them at an angle (they should go on absolutely straight), and you can shoot them straight away as you don’t have to wait for any glue to set. And that’s the advantages even before we start talking about performance increases. HTH, -Mac

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> no fletching jig is > required as there > is no need to fix them at an angle (they should go on absolutely

straight), And how do you get them absolutely straight without a jig? M

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eyeball?   Actually, with practice it’s not too hard to align them straight.  The hard part is getting them evenly distributed around the shaft.  Need a triliner (jig) for that<RBG> but not the bigun’s, like Bitzenberger… > no fletching jig is > required as there > is no need to fix them at an angle (they should go on absolutely > straight), > And how do you get them absolutely straight without a jig? > M

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wrote >eyeball?   Actually, with practice it’s not too hard to align them >straight.  The hard part is getting them evenly distributed around the >shaft.  Need a triliner (jig) for that<RBG> but not the bigun’s, like >Bitzenberger…

A specialized tool like the Triliner is not required if you already have a conventional jig like a Bitzenberger.  Just set the jig to zero offset and use the edge of the fletching clamp as a guide to draw the reference lines on the shaft.

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>eyeball?   Actually, with practice it’s not too hard to align them >straight.  The hard part is getting them evenly distributed around the >shaft.  Need a triliner (jig) for that<RBG> but not the bigun’s, like >Bitzenberger…

Don’t even need that one: a little piece of wood with a groove (or anything else U shaped ) in the top and a little plastic triangle will do: Make a triangle with a hole in the middle (piece of plastic sheet) that fits your nock and put it on. Put the wood with the groove on top on the table and place the arrow in the groove, turn it until one point of the triangle is on the table. Mark the arrow with a fine line gold or silver marker using the edge of the groove as a ruler. Turn the arrow, etc Works like a charm. (and putting on a temp "ring" of (paper) adhesive tape at the back makes it so much easier to align them lenghtwise) Hope that it’s clear: it’s always very hard to describe even the most simple things… Regards, Peter A&F Custom Kites Werkhoven NL For kitebuilding tips: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj>

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right you are!  (wouldn’t go buy a Bitz if I didn’t have one already, though<G>) > wrote >eyeball?   Actually, with practice it’s not too hard to align them >straight.  The hard part is getting them evenly distributed around the >shaft.  Need a triliner (jig) for that<RBG> but not the bigun’s, like >Bitzenberger… > A specialized tool like the Triliner is not required if you already > have a conventional jig like a Bitzenberger.  Just set the jig to > zero offset and use the edge of the fletching clamp as a guide to > draw the reference lines on the shaft.

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nice idea….  🙂 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->eyeball?   Actually, with practice it’s not too hard to align them >straight.  The hard part is getting them evenly distributed around the >shaft.  Need a triliner (jig) for that<RBG> but not the bigun’s, like >Bitzenberger… > Don’t even need that one: a little piece of wood with a groove (or > anything else U shaped ) in the top and a little plastic triangle will > do: > Make a triangle with a hole in the middle (piece of plastic sheet) > that fits your nock and put it on. > Put the wood with the groove on top on the table and place the arrow > in the groove, turn it until one point of the triangle is on the > table. Mark the arrow with a fine line gold or silver marker using the > edge of the groove as a ruler. Turn the arrow, etc > Works like a charm. > (and putting on a temp "ring" of (paper) adhesive tape at the back > makes it so much easier to align them lenghtwise) > Hope that it’s clear: it’s always very hard to describe even the most > simple things… > Regards, Peter > A&F Custom Kites Werkhoven NL > For kitebuilding tips: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj>

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