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Saint Sebastian

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The archers throughout the world have a gaurdian angel: Saint Sebastian. Sebastian was found guilty of treason and was therefore sentenced with a death penalty. He was to be shot by archers… So they got him out, placed him at 18 meters, and the recurve and compound archers had a ball… Alas, they were terrible archers, they only managed to wound the poor fella’… He escaped. Later he was hunted down and beaten to death with clubs…. After he died, he decided that all archers must need a guardian angel, to help improve their skills. So he became Saint Sebastian. They day named after him is january 20th. This story may not be entirely accurate, but it’s good !!! ARCUS, a local club in Odense Denmark, has every year, close to this date, a tournament called "The Saint Sebastian Cup". The tournament is open for all archers, that are members of FITA (through their local archery-club, through their national org.) The shoot is 60 arrows on 18 meters, shorter distances for children, 12 meters for under 15 years, 8 meters for under 12. (I’m not sure about the age, but its something like that). After the 60 arrows, the top 16 shoot finals, REGARDLESS of bowtype (compound, recurve, longbow). The archers shoot their own distance, and of course compounds use the inner-ten. So we could have (and have in earlier years) a boy, 10 years old, shooting a compound at 8 meters, against a national team recurve archer at 18 meters. In 2003 the tournament is held the 18th of janurary, and if some of you lot out there in the world would like to come, send me a private email, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, as there is only room for just around 100 archers. If you read danish, you might want to take a look at www.arcus.dk OH! Did I mention, that they use Archersoft TimeIt at the tournament… /Jens Fudge, Archersoft www.archersoft.dk software for archery

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Jens: this is an ancient propaganda story. The modern version is much more consistent and runs like this (from memory, so there may be some minor inaccuracies): Sebastian was a Roman officer and a Christian. I am not sure now if he refused to participate in the emperor cult, or if he tried to win followers in the army. He was therefore sentenced to death by being shot by his own unit. But he was a popular officer, and his men were competent archers, so they only hit him where it did not matter that much. He recovered and went on in his ways, apparently determined to become a martyr. He was sentenced to death a second time, by clubbing, which he did not survive. Best regards  -  Harald. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The archers throughout the world have a gaurdian angel: Saint Sebastian. > Sebastian was found guilty of treason and was therefore sentenced with a > death penalty. He was to be shot by archers… > So they got him out, placed him at 18 meters, and the recurve and compound > archers had a ball… > Alas, they were terrible archers, they only managed to wound the poor > fella’… He escaped. > Later he was hunted down and beaten to death with clubs…. > After he died, he decided that all archers must need a guardian angel, to > help improve their skills. > So he became Saint Sebastian. > They day named after him is january 20th. > This story may not be entirely accurate, but it’s good !!! > ARCUS, a local club in Odense Denmark, has every year, close to this date, a > tournament called "The Saint Sebastian Cup". The tournament is open for all > archers, that are members of FITA (through their local archery-club, through > their national org.) > The shoot is 60 arrows on 18 meters, shorter distances for children, 12 > meters for under 15 years, 8 meters for under 12. (I’m not sure about the > age, but its something like that). > After the 60 arrows, the top 16 shoot finals, REGARDLESS of bowtype > (compound, recurve, longbow). The archers shoot their own distance, and of > course compounds use the inner-ten. > So we could have (and have in earlier years) a boy, 10 years old, shooting a > compound at 8 meters, against a national team recurve archer at 18 meters. > In 2003 the tournament is held the 18th of janurary, and if some of you lot > out there in the world would like to come, send me a private email, AS SOON > AS POSSIBLE, as there is only room for just around 100 archers. If you read > danish, you might want to take a look at www.arcus.dk > OH! Did I mention, that they use Archersoft TimeIt at the tournament… > /Jens Fudge, Archersoft > www.archersoft.dk > software for archery

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Harald Yeah ok that might be right…. When Arcus (the club) holds Saint Sebastian cup, I usually "spicen" the story up a little with some fairly inaccurate stuff, like: Sebastian was sentenced to his death because of high treason, he had refused to watch the football game on Telly, and this was at that time considered to be high-treason….. /Jens Fudge, Archersoft www.archersoft.dk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jens: this is an ancient propaganda story. The modern version is much more > consistent and runs like this (from memory, so there may be some minor > inaccuracies): > Sebastian was a Roman officer and a Christian. I am not sure now if he > refused to participate in the emperor cult, or if he tried to win followers > in the army. He was therefore sentenced to death by being shot by his own > unit. But he was a popular officer, and his men were competent archers, so > they only hit him where it did not matter that much. He recovered and went > on in his ways, apparently determined to become a martyr. He was sentenced > to death a second time, by clubbing, which he did not survive. > Best regards  -  Harald. > The archers throughout the world have a gaurdian angel: Saint Sebastian. > Sebastian was found guilty of treason and was therefore sentenced with a > death penalty. He was to be shot by archers… > So they got him out, placed him at 18 meters, and the recurve and compound > archers had a ball… > Alas, they were terrible archers, they only managed to wound the poor > fella’… He escaped. > Later he was hunted down and beaten to death with clubs…. > After he died, he decided that all archers must need a guardian angel, to > help improve their skills. > So he became Saint Sebastian. > They day named after him is january 20th. > This story may not be entirely accurate, but it’s good !!! > ARCUS, a local club in Odense Denmark, has every year, close to this date, > a > tournament called "The Saint Sebastian Cup". The tournament is open for > all > archers, that are members of FITA (through their local archery-club, > through > their national org.) > The shoot is 60 arrows on 18 meters, shorter distances for children, 12 > meters for under 15 years, 8 meters for under 12. (I’m not sure about the > age, but its something like that). > After the 60 arrows, the top 16 shoot finals, REGARDLESS of bowtype > (compound, recurve, longbow). The archers shoot their own distance, and of > course compounds use the inner-ten. > So we could have (and have in earlier years) a boy, 10 years old, shooting > a > compound at 8 meters, against a national team recurve archer at 18 meters. > In 2003 the tournament is held the 18th of janurary, and if some of you > lot > out there in the world would like to come, send me a private email, AS > SOON > AS POSSIBLE, as there is only room for just around 100 archers. If you > read > danish, you might want to take a look at www.arcus.dk > OH! Did I mention, that they use Archersoft TimeIt at the tournament… > /Jens Fudge, Archersoft > www.archersoft.dk > software for archery

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>The archers throughout the world have a gaurdian angel: Saint Sebastian.

Here in England our patron saint of archery is Saint Edmund, king and martyr. He was tied to a tree and used as target practise by the heathen Danish Vikings! — John Grove

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Yeah, we Danes had loads of back in "the good old days" ….. /Jens – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The archers throughout the world have a gaurdian angel: Saint Sebastian. > Here in England our patron saint of archery is Saint Edmund, king and > martyr. He was tied to a tree and used as target practise by the heathen > Danish Vikings! > — > John Grove

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