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Hi Does anyone know the address of this server?

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Jens Fudge wrote the following message: > Hi > Does anyone know the address of this server?

I am not sure what you are asking here. The link to this news server? The newsgroup name? Your particular news server: news.tele.dk Newsgroup; rec.sport.archery Your full news server address to this newsgroup: — Be the arrow… The Little Wind Archers of Fremont County http://clubs.bowhunting.net/littlewindarchers/

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>Hi >Does anyone know the address of this server?

Do you spend your weekends phoning people up and asking "what number have I just dialled"? HooDooWitch Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big and wear glasses if you need ‘em.

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Yes I do that often No, the thing is I have currently connected my pc to news.tele.dk as Ron was so kind to remind me… The newsgroup has however, most likely, some origin, and I’m trying to figure out how to get to the origin. (By origin I do mean a machine with a valid ip-address and or domain name). The newsserver I currently am connected to merely has a reflection of what is on the original server. A mirror so to speak. Why on earth would I like to do this??? The reason I have this peculiar request, is that my internet provider (tele.dk) has the habit of blocking write-access to some of the newsgroups, which is a bummer, but since I go through their server (name = news.tele.dk ip= 62.243.74.162) they are entitled to do this. Currently I CAN write to this particular newsgroup, but I have encountered problems on other newsgroups. Hence I would like to connect directly to the origin server of this newsgroup. You can consider it like a telephone central, sometimes you call a company and get redirected to one particular office. Next time you might want to call that office directly, so yes….. It does sometimes make sence to ask someone you have called about their phone number. But I certainly do like the way you think Hoo Doo Witch. So the question remains, but I might refrase it: Does anyone know the ORIGIN of this newsgroup, and/or how this information can be found ? Thx in advance /Jens – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi >Does anyone know the address of this server? > Do you spend your weekends phoning people up and asking "what number > have I just dialled"? > HooDooWitch > Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, > grow big and wear glasses if you need ‘em.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Yes I do that often > No, the thing is I have currently connected my pc to news.tele.dk as Ron was > so kind to remind me… > The newsgroup has however, most likely, some origin, and I’m trying to > figure out how to get to the origin. (By origin I do mean a machine with a > valid ip-address and or domain name). The newsserver I currently am > connected to merely has a reflection of what is on the original server. A > mirror so to speak. > Why on earth would I like to do this??? The reason I have this peculiar > request, is that my internet provider (tele.dk) has the habit of blocking > write-access to some of the newsgroups, which is a bummer, but since I go > through their server (name = news.tele.dk ip= 62.243.74.162) they are > entitled to do this. > Currently I CAN write to this particular newsgroup, but I have encountered > problems on other newsgroups. Hence I would like to connect directly to the > origin server of this newsgroup. > You can consider it like a telephone central, sometimes you call a company > and get redirected to one particular office. Next time you might want to > call that office directly, so yes….. It does sometimes make sence to ask > someone you have called about their phone number. > But I certainly do like the way you think Hoo Doo Witch. > So the question remains, but I might refrase it: > Does anyone know the ORIGIN of this newsgroup, and/or how this information > can be found ?

Usenet is a peer to peer network of many servers that carry the information.  No one server is the "home" of a particular group.  Your posting had crossed all these servers to reach the one where I read it: news.tele.dk                                                               newsfeed.arcor-online.net                                                 news.belwue.de                                                             feedme.news.mediaways.net                                                 nntp.gblx.net                                                             Quza.UK.peer                                                               nntp.gblx.net                                                             feeder0.quza                                                               Many people make reliable news servers available.  One of most highly repected usenet server providers that I have heard has pages here: <http://news.cis.dfn.de/> — Chris Hatt USER ERROR: Replace user and press any key to continue…

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the following: >The newsgroup has however, most likely, some origin, and I’m trying to >figure out how to get to the origin.

And when you’re not on the phone askin’ "What number have I dialled?" you’re asking "Who’s your daddy?" >You can consider it like a telephone central, sometimes you call a company >and get redirected to one particular office. Next time you might want to >call that office directly, so yes….. It does sometimes make sence to ask >someone you have called about their phone number.

… and if you don’t like the service that you’re getting from the phone company? – you go elsewhere. And you can go elsewhere for news servers. I use news.cis.dfn.de  http://news.cis.dfn.de/ They expect you to register, and abide by their rules, but I’ve not had trouble posting anywhere. >Does anyone know the ORIGIN of this newsgroup, and/or how this information >can be found ?

There is no one server that hosts these newsgroups. There’s just a series of servers that, just like tele.dk, and news.cis.dfn.de, mirror other news servers. It’s called propogation, and it’s the way this particular bit of t’internet works. > But I certainly do like the way you think Hoo Doo Witch.

<Tommy Cooper> Fachyouverrymuch </tommy> HooDooWitch Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big and wear glasses if you need ‘em.

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>The newsgroup has however, most likely, some origin, and I’m trying to >figure out how to get to the origin. (By origin I do mean a machine with a >valid ip-address and or domain name).

The orgin is the posters machine.  Once each poster posts an article, it goes out to the world, so to speak.  Each newserver then decides to pick up the newsgroup or not. >The newsserver I currently am >connected to merely has a reflection of what is on the original server.

No, it has whatever the administrator wanted it to pick up. >A mirror so to speak.

More like a basket that is selectively filled. >Why on earth would I like to do this??? The reason I have this peculiar >request, is that my internet provider (tele.dk) has the habit of blocking >write-access to some of the newsgroups, which is a bummer, but since I go >through their server (name = news.tele.dk ip= 62.243.74.162) they are >entitled to do this. >Currently I CAN write to this particular newsgroup, but I have encountered >problems on other newsgroups. Hence I would like to connect directly to the >origin server of this newsgroup.

This doesn’t sound right.  Some ISP’s will not carry certain newsgroups, but I have never heard of one not allowing you to post.   I think you should read up on how newsgroups, also called usenet, works.

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Well, yeah, I dont know much about newsswervers….. But I do know that if I log on to any of Borland’s newsgroups through the Tele.DK server I cannot post anything, if I log on to Borlands own server, no problem… This is why I figured there must be an origin of a newsserver….. Sorry for my ignorance. /Jens – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The newsgroup has however, most likely, some origin, and I’m trying to >figure out how to get to the origin. (By origin I do mean a machine with a >valid ip-address and or domain name). > The orgin is the posters machine.  Once each poster posts an article, it > goes out to the world, so to speak.  Each newserver then decides to pick > up the newsgroup or not. >The newsserver I currently am >connected to merely has a reflection of what is on the original server. > No, it has whatever the administrator wanted it to pick up. >A mirror so to speak. > More like a basket that is selectively filled. >Why on earth would I like to do this??? The reason I have this peculiar >request, is that my internet provider (tele.dk) has the habit of blocking >write-access to some of the newsgroups, which is a bummer, but since I go >through their server (name = news.tele.dk ip= 62.243.74.162) they are >entitled to do this. >Currently I CAN write to this particular newsgroup, but I have encountered >problems on other newsgroups. Hence I would like to connect directly to the >origin server of this newsgroup. > This doesn’t sound right.  Some ISP’s will not carry certain newsgroups, but I > have never heard of one not allowing you to post. > I think you should read up on how newsgroups, also called usenet, works.

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